so welcome back to the cookie jar golf podcasting um we’re in the marine and Lawn Hotel
it’s embarrassing we’re in the lobby because everyone’s on the golf course aren’t they so this is embarrassing why
are we doing this this
hello and welcome back to the cookie jar golf podcast I am Tom Mills and today I’m joined by my friend Sam Williams
Thomas it’s a pleasure to be here where are we sat well I think we’re gonna leave that
stupid intro and yeah we are sat in the Marine lawn Hotel we are in the lobby surrounded by
human without playing golf aren’t they uh we’re looking down at the 16th at
North Barrack and the site of where Bruce nearly lost his teeth yeah
so argue with that wall no I mean I mean knifing a wedge into it from 160 yards
this was a no from about five feet about five feet I mean 160 hours behind 140 miles an hour wasn’t ideal we digress
um just just um big thank you to Marine lawn for having us last few days so we’re playing a bit of golf up in East
Lothian um seeing a few people playing a few games of golf and
um inspired by Dunbar today so we wanted to do a short podcast on it before we go into talking about Dunbar though Tom
can we talk about Saint Andrews without giving too much away yeah it’s in
Andrews is going to be large the 150th is there it is the hottest ticket in
town and you can’t you can’t get accommodation you can’t find anywhere to
drink you can’t get tickets it is locked up well I think it’s going to be Bedlam
isn’t it we’ve um I don’t want to share too much because I think we’ve got we’re going to be working like crazy now between now
and the end of July to to sort of make this what I think it can be but
um there’s going to be some events going on around the open proximity to the 18th green would be I
mean it’s the sort of shot that I can shank it’s sub 50 yards distance you know we’re talking that close
um I think it could be incredible so I don’t want to share too much on here because there’s quite a bit to be
confirmed and sorted but I think there is an action for um anyone that’s going to be in and
around Saint Andrews in the week of the open um would definitely like you to get in
touch with us on contact you guys and I think I think you’ll be very very pleased with the outcome to
get in touch on all that yeah no that without being Daft though look we do want people to get in touch because it will be
um we’re going to be able to start to run some events around this where there’s going to be whether it’s food and drinks whether it’s just meet and
greets whether some you know live podcasting or whatever there’s going to be some really cool stuff going on music
the Lots yeah it’s a very exciting time in the jar so yeah get in touch with us let us know so we can kind of just
communicate with you as those plans develop really there’s nothing quite like being excited about the jar
than playing golf and we’re up in the East slow at the end just talking about what we can do in San Andreas when we go
over to five foot we can see it from here pretty much looking across the the further fourth from it’s lower than over
to five um but we’re up in East Lothian we have played Dunbar this morning which
like you say was the inspiration because it genuinely was mind-bogglingly good the condition of it
um was I’ve played it before Dunbar you have until you were very young EU 12 12 years ago I want to say when I
played it I was up on a stag day and I hadn’t played the same amount of Links Golf that perhaps I had you know
now but I remember thinking then this is really cool like there’s a lot of Vibes about this because that stone wall and
everything and we’ll talk about it but going back I I knew it was going to be good we were
teed off at 7 36 so we had the whole course in front of us we could play Fast
um really cool playing with Xander yeah Sandra Caldwell who’s the Scottish
amateur Champion 2013. he’s a you know he’s an honorary member there yeah yeah well
to the round we went in for uh because like we said we played earlier so we went for a bacon sandwich after after
the round and Xander I mean it was a it was a clear point but he’s like oh I don’t
like to sit here I don’t like to sit here why what’s the matter what’s sitting here he’s like oh it’s just too close to my picture which of course was
him saying look at my picture he’s up on the wall holding the Scottish ham trophy you know science signed and all that
stuff it was brilliant but it was um it was brilliant playing with Xander I mean it’s nice to finally play with the
proper ball Striker actually Sam I think it was it was it was good to see him we
are I mean how this has another yellow warning for wind is is quite absurd yeah
ever played I’ve never played golfing wind like this consistence it’s 40 miles
an hour and it has been for three days it has and it’s not gusting at 40. it is
40 miles an hour 45 gusting North for context we hit we played the 11th at
Renaissance yesterday and the hole is about a hundred it was 112. yeah both
the ladies it was 112 to the PIN I think I hit flat out five iron
which I’d usually cover I’d say about 190 maybe or something for that
I was 30 40 yards short yeah it was Neil in our group here four iron and he’s a
big hitter as well yeah two handicapped he knows what he’s doing yeah and he’s throttled this forearm and he still had
75 yards left so um I was actually in a bunker today
in in Dunbar you could have too much wind kind of I uh I hit a 56 out of pretty well pretty flush and it landed
behind me it went up and up and up and forward and then stopped and came back
and finished it landed in front of me but finished behind me it was quite excessive would you say you can have too
much wind on Links Golf yeah I think so it was difficult I think we talked about this on the way around it was difficult
to to grasp the nuances and the subtleties of of a course when you are
in all-out war with nature yeah they’re just trying to stand up was quite difficult swinging a golf club was
attritional I mean I don’t know my wind speeds maybe as much but 20 mile an hour
that’s a really good Lynx Breeze generally from what you know you oh it’s 20 mile an hour today you kind of just
store it in your mind somewhere that’s a good Breeze that’s a two or three Club wind you know sometimes that’s a that’s
a tough Lynx Breeze 40s are almost unplayable yeah because there’s literally no Advantage downwind there’s
almost no Advantage you just can’t stop the shot yeah that’s green as well uh what quick was
it what was it Paul armor the course manager course manager he came out and uh were a chat
with him on about 14 15 something like that and he was previously up at Saint Andrews work with Gordon McKay up there
yeah so he was Deputy manager of the link sir yeah that’s what his links trust across all the courses there yeah
and we were there in our about I don’t think you need long sock I
don’t really need long socks with shorts at Dunbar but I seem to take mats into my hands up you’re right along so I got
my deal so he ran over to show us the shots he was wearing his deal socks it was he said that James bledged down and
was for me down deal now Royal Liverpool sending the socks up and we were there like talking about our Golf Club socks
it’s weird how like sucks but um yeah so it was really interesting
having a chat with him so just I because I thought it was really really firm I said guys like this is rock hard
um he was like yeah there’s quite a bit of fescue in the fairways and everything like they’re quite High
count on it it’s interesting he’s had that you know we’d had quite a wet April but then almost
you know in the space of a week with all this wind that they’ve had it’s like aerated the core so that it’s now gone
absolutely firm hard obviously they’ve now got the growth condition of it was absolutely unbelievable dumbbells
getting played a lot you know dumbbell is a really busy Golf Club full tea sheet every day
and it was just pure really really pure yeah it was one of those days where like
I I don’t think I saw anyone need to repair a pitch mark because it’s just so
firm it’s like the fairways aren’t chewed up but everything’s just you know everything from like you know just the
little things like I know you’re gonna say like oh transitions but
yeah really clever how the holes tie in together you know you can see they’ve done so much good stuff with rough
management thinking about the fact that the width and the playing lines if roughs up in a
certain area it’s there intentionally yeah it was and the way that you roll
off green to tea was was magnificent and it
it was just finishing it’s a quirky because the whole lot just it was just brilliantly presented you could just
tell that this wasn’t like oh it’s good ground and a good layout and they’ve got some nice bunkers it’s just presented
brilliantly like there’s clearly a lot of craftsmanship that’s going in on a daily basis how they’re cutting things
you know but it’s you know golf’s been played there a long time it’s one of those ones you kind of get up in East load the end
and five where you’re like yeah we’re not quite sure but but they’ve been playing golf here for like 400
years and it has been altered over time you know it’s it’s been an 18 whole Golf Course for quite some time it’s had old
time Morris came in did some of the routing when they extended it to 18 and said uh Ben Sayers and James braid be
involved with it so you know when James Breaks basically been everywhere in Scotland but when he’s involved there’s generally good stuff you know what I
mean so the whole routing of it the land is just so good but it’s it’s
interesting because the clubhouse is just on on the sea there as you come in
and I think I think they’ve now agreed that they’re going to move that across to the end of the first change
the numbers a little bit because it’s a weird start in terms of you play back-to-back path fires to start
and then you basically then cross the Wall over towards this to the further
fourth and then that’s like you’re in the the real links land then and it’s kind of
along the the Firth all the way down and um by moving the club asset to the back of
one which I think is what they’re thinking of doing they can then start on what is the second which is a par five
and finish on the first which is a par five so they spread those par fives out and
um it’s a shame because the clubhouse was perfect Clubhouse has some straight up Vibes yeah some really cool little
Captain’s Room which have just so much of that kind of light wood paneling everywhere and pool table and just has a
great feeling in the air you know it’s it’s you know the blackboards there with the menu and all that’s you know there’s
just some little detailings it just feels very you know authentic um just in terms of course anyone that’s
been to Dunbar will know this anyway but there’s an ancient wall that cuts pretty much through the whole
length of the course yeah ready for that out and back it goes for the most the distance and you play holes one two and
three and this sort of it’s not a paddock but it’s like an area the other side of the ball the other 15 holes you play on the other side which which kind
of run right through the coast I remember last time thinking oh yeah one two three just kind of just loosening
your shoulders and then the the action starts happening on four but that nice couple of path fires to open and it’s
not it’s not certainly not a traditional way of opening a golf course with two up up
um really yeah yeah so when it was they had 14 holes and that was a deer park on that side and they’ve got the land off
the Deer Park and added one two three and eighteen as we play them today but it that’s why it does feel
not out of sync but it’s not the same as as soon as you cross the Wall it’s uh that’s exactly the same land
though so yeah everything’s I mean three is a magnificent par three from up the top down and then you this is where it
really comes alive and anyone who’s visited it’s I would say it’s possibly the best reveal that you can get because
the walls were high the Wall’s eight feet ish in height so you’re not going to be looking over it unless your name
is Robert Wadlow and you go through you know this little Gap in the in the wall and all of a
sudden you’re like oh wow and it got the correctly sure it’s right up to your feet you’re teeing off you know as close
as you can you know pretty much in the sea you play as wonderful short for and then the next yeah pretty much the
entire hot course then just hugs that Coastline on the way up um yeah it’s great great reveal yeah we
played in a fairly like we said the wind is strong here in East lower than at the moment but it’s a
it’s an odd wind so it’s a strong Northerly wind so we’re playing these golf courses that
aren’t designed with a with that wind in mind so a lot of the shorter par fours
were playing downwind and a lot of the longer parfors were playing into so it was it’s one of those days it’s been one
of those trips where like stroke play need not apply it’s match play yeah it’s match play golf because well we played
didn’t we so we should actually come in here so yeah me and Jason were playing against you and Xander shout out he’s uh
been a friend of the Pod and I come to a lot of our events and he’s hosting us up in his lothians we’ve had a good time
with Jason but just to give us some context you gotta expect everyone to know who Jason is exactly and um
but we have so we just Drew Drew straws whatever so me and Jason taking on you and Xander
um you know Sandra say honorary member at Dunbar won the Scottish amateur champ you know Renaissance yeah this guy’s
gonna be decent um anyway we I I’ve said early doors we me
and Jason are a couple down we’re gonna get absolutely steamrolled in this game I wish you can’t keep pace so I’ve said well let’s let’s put dalmeyer in play
those who don’t know what Dalma ruling is when you go two down in the match the
others decide that are down get to get a shot every hole until they get it back to all square
it’s actually I think works quite nicely well it just means that you never you’re
never out of it really I mean it’s cool there was a bit of heartbreak for you I think when the first time you went sort
of we went down my and I think um you were on the grading too and zando would miss the green and
he chips gets up and down chips in one part and he’s three stab from five or a half
and he’s like oh God’s embarrassing um but yeah it was that causing it and
then we went I seem to remember stood over a putt on 15. thinking to myself
I’m one down I actually would rather miss this part so I can get dalmeyer on
the go so you can go too down yeah because if I can go too down I mean that’s the excuse you get for missing rather than halving and staying at one
down if I miss it I can get on Delmar and then I’ll get shots all the way in true to form I missed the putt no I
didn’t try and Miss A Part I’ve never tried to miss a putt but then Xander had like a three-footer and we were actually like oh
because he had three fights to win the hole and we were thinking the other way around we were thinking to probably miss this actually half this
half this hour so we don’t have to put so we don’t have to give you it’s a ridiculous format when you think about
it but good fun um so then we had a shot every hole so 16 got a shot I think got
it back to one 17 halved after I knifed a seven iron through the bag
um which meant we’re one down going down 18. and then I’ve got a shot and I’ve
met her I’ve made it up and down four with a shot to for from three I mean you
can take a shot on on the 18. so I think you know there’s no pictures on the scorecard I come away from that and just
think yeah you know what I’ve I’ve gone toe-to-toe with the Scottish amateur champion and I’ve come out with a half
and I think you know people playing yeah I was playing I know
I know but you know I’ve got a half out of it against the sky chance Champion I’ve of course being sarcastic but
um a lot of true set of gesto isn’t it cool fun the Delmar talk to me about the course favorite holes favorite stretches
it was one of those days we probably had too many glasses of red wine last night so we
turned up this morning with a little bit of a sore head and uh
we’re not I didn’t even have a scorecard my pocket you just kind of like oh we’ll be playing uh this is part four okay
let’s go and um so I don’t truly form I don’t particularly know the net which number holes that I’m going to be
talking about there’s a par five we you next to the wall and you tee off over a hill and it’s uh you smoked your drive
down right and then you were like oh I’m getting miles down here no you’re here mate no time miles down no you’re just
here sorry nine nine yeah nine and that um and yeah that was a really cool cool
haul I thought yeah but there’s that brilliant bit where you tear up it’s almost like a blind drive but then you get onto this little plateau and the
further you go down this platter eventually like the next sort of swathe of Coastline opens up which apparently
Jason said that that on the right you can see a factory and that’s Scotland’s only concrete Factory I thought that was
particularly type of type of statement um cement factory that was it and I was
like why’d you need to make cement and he was looked at me like I was an idiot but I just thought cement was like sad
it was the sort of Anna acknowledge that you know yeah I was pretty impressed with that um
yeah I agree I think that’s that’s really good cool hole I think it was um because it is very much like as soon
as you get to four it’s an out and back um the first three are in a loop and then it’s out and back from four onwards
but there is one that goes against the grain I think it’s like yeah yeah you
just turn back and that’s got a brilliant green side that huge little bowl at the very fourth yeah Ross and
George’s type of Vibes yeah yeah yeah yeah British like really short quirky
awesome Georges the green that sway that at the front left the
huge dip in the green and then up to the top yeah it’s definitely got like a little
yeah there’s a huge Bowl isn’t there um but it’s a really cool hole out
I I I asked that question about favorite holes because I don’t know if there really is actually I’d say was that one
there are some real good whole standout holes but actually it’s it’s like it’s a better package you
know yeah yeah it’s not I don’t think it’s leaning on you know I don’t I don’t think kills Bindi is a fair comparison
with Dunbar I don’t I don’t think they are the same golf course but if you look at those two East Lothian courses I
think you’d come away from Kill spindy and you’d say yeah you know what horse three holes four banging golf seven I
think it is the path three across the bay whereas Dunbar I’d look at and go it’s
actually just really consistently great and as such it’s greater than some of its parts I think is yeah it’s
interesting you talk about kill spendy um because I mean you get the impression
that there’s similar members clubs now proper proper members local Scottish
members Club um but what’s interesting is that we’ve been doing cookie jar for
a good few years now and it really took off in Earnest back in 2020
and we’ve done a hell of a lot of Scotland golf now but
kind of this is the first trip I’ve been on where it feels like the International Community is is here like we’ve been in
the covert times yeah even last year’s no international travel was there really and it’s it’s interesting like here
we’re set um Barrack through this beautiful Windows
here they’ve gotten running along and um you know it’s like there’s a lot of Americans there’s a lot of caddies
there’s a lot of four balls it’s very very busy like the International Golf tourism Market
is back on isn’t it it’s end of May it’s early June it’s it’s like the season is here two years they haven’t had
you know a marine law and a fabulous Hotel very much geared towards you know the International Golf traveler that’s
coming to North Berwick for a special few days oh it’s I’ve never said I’ve never
noticed it so much maybe I’ve you know not doing so many trips to Scotland pretty cookie John pre-covered but
yes crazy isn’t it and I first out this morning so we were 7 30 so we’re the whole course to ourselves we ran around
didn’t it didn’t like it didn’t affect our golf whatsoever you know it was absolutely
fine but as we as we came off you you you know we we had to wait for about 90
seconds to get in the Pro Shop yeah because it was a stream of people coming out of this Pro Shop you know which is
great like you should we should say that’s great for the club the Scottish golf is filling their boots
it’s but every club’s like this right at the moment so you know East Lothian it’s just a golfing Mecca but it’s so busy
with golf which is great because there’s more people playing the sport there’s people visiting this
but you sometimes I think you may you asked me the question you were like on the course somewhere and you said do
you think Scotland’s almost a victim of its own success
with golf what would you mean by that well
I imagine if you were a member of an East Lothian Golf Club it’s not as straightforward for them to
play their golf course as it is for us who who are in the Midlands in England
where if I want to play on if we struggle to drag this it’s just a black one it’s yeah it’s no big deal I can go
play whenever I want I’m gonna think about that if I I imagine if I were a member here somewhere in East Lothian
I’d have to plan my golf pretty meticulously yeah um you know
which when I when I asked do you think it’s a victim of his own success it’s kind of
it’s it’s I mean I think we had an argument last night of I was being it’s
full of Hyperbole and I was saying that from this position in the hotel you could see like 40 world-class golf
courses because you can see across the first fourth as well but the reality is along
this stretch of land there are 10 outrageously good golf courses and
people come here to travel they’re coming to play all the golf courses and I don’t know I just think
um it’s very I’m just aware it’s very very busy and I wonder whether you know
how the members feel about that really yeah it is a really hard one because it’s so sort of
nuanced isn’t there so many great things about having like an unbelief like it’s it’s essentially a limitless it is
impossible to fill the demand for for Scottish golf tourism yeah North America we’re looking at now
um you’ve talked about this before it was a Hidden Gem you know like when your dad came and he was like Christ I had to
play golf over a wall and there was this Green Split in Two and then there was this par three the kind of huge bunkers
you have to hit up to and then it all runs away and it you know and now that story is told everybody knows it’s here
everybody knows it’s good and everybody wants to come um which is you know drives up the cost
of golf here I mean the cost of the cost of golf here is is expensive it’s not getting around well I think for the
visitor isn’t it and that’s one of the you know interesting thing and I’m not getting into this isn’t specifically about Dunbar this is just a broader I
think contact point about Scott Scotland golf we’re talking about here but when you look at the green fees for
golf courses at a factor versus what the maybe the local membership cost would be you’re
looking at you know ratios in the order of like four five six seven to one
whereas you look at you know places that are maybe in England that normal members clubs in in England
you’re looking at a factor of you know 10 15 20 quite easily so
certainly the places you can buy that’s positive because what that means is then the local member that can enjoy that
course does so in a ridiculously good price because their subs are fully subsidized by all these visitors but it
does look that you know I think we always have a go at PACE to play but I see four balls with caddies and I see
five shots in a bunker and you know groups tea potting stood on the tee behind and you’re like ah yeah do you
know what this could just be more magical like the whole experience of visiting places like North berrick or
gullan or um Dunbar or whatever it could just be more magical if people just got through
the course but it’s it’s an impossible question because what do you do do you
put green fees even higher I mean that’s just and then say we want less or fewer visitors it’s
kind of like that’s not right either like you don’t want golf to be inaccessible so and you see at the very
high end Club so when by the I mean you know the real top end you know luxurious
private clubs like you know whether you’re talking about the loch lomans the Renaissance of the world or Glenn Eagles and stuff
what’s clear is that in golf just simple economics does not produce the right results for clubs so if you actually
followed simple economic models of optimize the course charge what the right thing is whether that’s charged
what the membership market value would be etc etc it doesn’t always get you the right outcome and it’s just such a weird
thing to manage I I don’t know what would what we’re saying in this but it’s just I think what big thing is Stark
observation because so much international travel which is great
but it’s like when we’ve done our previous trips yeah it’s you notice it’s a much more local playing membership
that’s getting through the course a lot quicker yeah for sure but I think the thing about about East Low at the
end as well is that there are some headline Acts North Barrack the the mule field their
their places that people would go out of their way from any part of the world to go and
play but then you’ve got these these other courses that are on the same land
like gallon one and two we’ve got
Dunbar that we play today that if you took away those headline
acts the north Barrack like you would travel to go play those places they are just as good
but just don’t grab the headlines you know it’s and don’t maybe don’t have the
the history or like I mean North Barracks a different one because it’s got beer it’s green it’s got the Redan it’s
got the pit it’s it’s so full of Quirk and charm and people want to come do that muirfield’s got the open and
there’s hag and everything that goes with that but then yeah these other places are
just brilliant like absolutely I think dumbbells are hugely overlooked
Golf Course still for just maybe the British punter that’s coming up and for a few days golf you know a lot of people
message us and talk to us about their golf itineraries Dunbar rarely features kind of like that Ely thing it’s like
you she should 100 go and play Dunbar you should 100 go and play gullin 2 and
gun three and go on one you should definitely go and see these places it’s not about the trophies or the trophy
courses or the headliners but people would come here to to Scotland say if you’re an uh maybe you’re an American
and you say okay so what I’m going to do is I’m going to play North Barrack I’m going to play uh Muirfield and I’m going
to drive across to fight for more place in Andrews and we’ll play Carnoustie and then maybe I’ll drive up and play
Trump Aberdeen in cruden Bay and you’re like there’s no need like it’s all here like
everything is here everything is in Fife as well the same as Aberdeen there’s there’s millions of really really good
golf courses around wherever you want to go that you don’t
have to travel really we’re also guilty of this as well but you can put too much into a golfing itinerary classic example
we’ve done it again haven’t we because we want to play as many courses so we’ve done Gollum won two Renaissance here
we’ve got got more in a still you know I’m knackered and we’ve got more golf probably this afternoon and tomorrow but you know we’re done by you know
but you actually there’s something to be said for just rinse repeat at one course and just play it over and over and
linking it back to Dunbar I actually think Dunbar is a brilliant example of a course like that because it is quite nuanced the the holes are different they
ask they ask different questions of you but if the wind’s pointing a different way that whole course will play totally
different playing against the head of that wind going down on the out on the outward nine if you played it in the
opposite one is that are you playing a completely different Golf Course the next day um you know I yeah it’s uh it was I was
I was really really Blown Away by the just that the turf is just yeah so that’s really good like
really good yeah so um it’s only a it’s only really uh we were inspired we had
no we we tend to take our podcasting Gear with us wherever we go and if something happens and we meet someone
interesting we can always we always probably never really planned to do one today but we were inspired by
Dunbar it was it was one of those ones we like this is just like houses why am I not hearing more
about Dunbar quite cool hearing about the 2002 open a little bit as well isn’t it so obviously Steve elkington won the
bloody opened and they’re at Muirfield that year I did not know he had to qualify and he qualified at Dunbar
and slid through on it wasn’t a playoff but it was a playoff no it was it was a
playoff as a five-man playoff for three spots so they played down four now for
three spots because one guy missed the spot for the playoff no it was five then four and then all four got beaver in the
starting room anyway it was a five-man playoff so they played down one one of them dropped out so now it’s four spots
for three three spots for four players so they tee off two and as they’re walking down the second hole they get a
call saying someone’s dropped out the open all four are you in jeez
yeah imagine if you’re like one guy who maybe bogeyed that first playoff hole or
that’s a magical open that 2002. I think you know we’re going to start doing quite a bit of content about the open on
the lead up now to the 150th and stuff and you know whether it’s Hagan’s win in
1922 at George’s or the 2002 open at Muirfield there’s just so many great stories aren’t there and you know
chatting to people about that at Muirfield and you know the the nature of the winter stuff but wouldn’t it have
been remarkable you think coming through qualifying there in that in that setting to then go on and win it eventually it’s it’s unbelievable stuff
um yeah the days of that are dwindling there the ability to qualify and
and and go through and win I mean yeah it doesn’t feel like that’s
a thing that we’re going to see again unfortunately um we’re digressing enormously here from
no yeah yeah but I think um just bring it back to it you know spend some time
at Dunbar today passionate loved it had such a great time wanted to do a podcast to talk
about the club a little bit I’m one of the all-time bacon sandwiches hmm really good sandwiches credit where credit’s
dude I have iron Brew I was struggling a little bit so I just figured I’d eaten some sugar so I had iron Brew
with a bit of ice and I had blink sausage bacon and egg Bap I mean
it was just it was The Breakfast of Champions yeah it’s very good man after that
um nothing worse than floppy bacon it was nice crispy bacon I had a great time there today playing first getting out
early and having an empty course made that though as well and I think looking
at you know a lot of the course at the moment over in around Scotland and said busy really really busy
um certainly with the open coming up on 50th it’s going to be a lot of a lot of
Tourism Scotland uh in the next few months of course you’ve got the Scottish Scottish open at Renaissance in five
weeks so there’s gonna be uh there’s gonna be a lot of and before we sign off we I
will just Bang the Drum on those two two things as well um San Andreas open 150th if you are going
to be there please do get in touch there is going to be some genuinely unbelievable stuff happening
um where we’re going to team up with a couple of our friends and do some cool stuff around that so um we’re going to get some mailing lists
put together so we can communicate some of the different events that will be going on so that people have got an opportunity to choose which parts and
things that they want to go to depending on if they’re there for the Thursday or there for the Sunday more and you know Saturday and we’re going to kick around
Sunday morning or whatever that might look like so um yeah we’ll uh just just get in touch
and also you know we should say you know huge thank you again to Marine lawn for for having us you know we a bit of a
short notice trip it’s hard getting hold of accommodation the guys from those guys put us up it’s an unbelievable spot
where we start having a drink so uh View’s insane yeah but anyway until next time