hello and welcome back to another episode of the cookie jar golf podcast I am Tom Mills as always and joined with
me today is Sam Williams greetings Thomas what a warm morning it is it is we’re sat outside jarhq in the sun and
we’ve had a weekend of golf well you’ve had a weekend of Golf out of weekend of being ill I played Saturday yeah I
played Saturday I also had a lovely trip up to Royal Liverpool which uh who’s going to feature this pod but I’ve had a
nice couple of days golf it’s just it’s like the courses are all great at the
moment because of the weather we’re enjoying so for anyone not in the UK we’re in a I would say an unseasonably
warm and dry weather even though it’s the peak of Summer yeah August is usually a really wet month over here as
well in my experience well we usually get a lot just at the moment this isn’t a weather podcast but we usually get a
lot of rain at some point in the summer and I genuinely don’t think we’ve had any rain since or anyone who’s watched the open
probably could tell we haven’t had much rain but shout out to our sponsor by the way the Met Office the Met Office in
partnership with it actually is awesome better apps than the Met Office on my phone it’s funny about like it’s funny
how you get attached to weather apps isn’t it yeah I quite like the satellite one because I think doing more of what
we do you need to see something with cloud cover and you need to see stuff with precipitation that’s better the
iPhone apparently it’s like one of these real things that goes around things you never knew type BBC is just really when
you look at your iPhone and it says 30 rain
it doesn’t mean there is a 30 chance of rain it means that that area 30 will
experience rain I still think it means I think it means it I think it means 30 if 100 rain was
the maximum it could rain on you you’re gonna get 30 of that as the amount of rain I think it’s it’s so bizarre but
one you will notice if you use the iPhone it will always show you clouds and rain it very rarely rains when there
is no cloud or rain on there um completely gone down a rabbit hole on
this but the the high level message to take away from it is the courses are firm they’re fast they’re brown
um and they’re playing brilliantly so it’s great to get out on the road Tom and and see a few places and the reason
for this put this podcast is of course a co-stars episode from delamere forest which you which you went to I wanted to
go back for a while I’ve did you play there when you were very young I’ve played I’ve played it quite a few times
um not when I was very young when I was sort of medium young so probably in my sort of early to mid 20s
did quite a few trips up there Paul living in Manchester um you know just just went and spent
quite a bit of time typically played it in the winter for whatever reason and it’s a good winter course though well
that that was actually the reason why I wanted to go back anyway but when we
did a poll I think I think recently on social media I was like where’s the best Inland Golf Course for winter winter
golf and I mean to a man that and perhaps gantam which I’ve not been to
um came well out on top you know it’s like it it’s really well thought of and you know it’s just great land I mean
it’s heathland Fowler um it’s just kind of off Junction 19 on the m6 so you’re sort of talking to the
south west west of of Manchester um no I think it’s important it’s in that sort of Cheshire area I think which
is not blessed with stacks of Great Golf I don’t I just disagree slightly I mean I think for that reason it’s not far
from those Northwest yeah um golf courses which which is really blessed with with Greg off so I think for that
reason delamere probably flies a little bit under the rainbow for what it is and it’s Inland of course which
um everyone’s got this stigma their inline courses are going to be not as good as links courses but yeah I
mean we’ve done it before you and I have done it before as a stop off to the Northwest
but it’s actually it’s not like halfway or whatever it’s nearly all the way to the Northwest isn’t it yeah so I mean
it’s it’s a it’s a perfect one to break the drive up um it’s a great place it’s actually a
really nice part of the world so it’s delamere Forest is sort of like an old old sort of um to the king’s hunting hunting sort of
forest that’s actually where some of the stuff with the logo comes from with the uh with the horn there it’s a wonderful
place so the the actual site itself is kind of buried within you know the
actual Forest itself it’s not particularly tree-lined it’s not like completely overgrown but you are kind of
cocooned in an area so you feel totally isolated from all the roads anything
going on around there you are completely Nutley removed apart from maybe two
drives that you can see um you know kind of electricity pylons in the very very long distance over on
the horizon you almost wouldn’t know where on Earth you are it’s it’s quite special well no no no you wouldn’t know sorry
you wouldn’t know that you’re around where civilization yeah you wouldn’t know you’re around by civilization I guess so there’s a there’s a brilliant
feeling of escapism which in know it’s pretty hard to achieve with Inland golf particularly when you think you’re
probably you know 30 minutes from Manchester and about 40 minutes from Liverpool so yeah for that reason it’s very cool
um so I mean the whole round came about been messaging someone on on social media big shout out to Harry
um who’s kind of keen to get a game in he actually couldn’t make Saturday and instead sort of teed us up with Donald
uh or the Donald um chairman of greens at delamere Forest what a great bloke as well
um and had a wonderful day absolutely wonderful day so yeah quite excited to talk about the course I guess
so file is a an architect which is pretty close to our hearts our own dear
Blackwell is Fowler and Simpson combined although I do dare say that it’s more attributed to Simpson than it is to
Fowler but um do you see any resemblance in some of the architectural themes between
here and Blackwell Robert team Blackwell sorry and delamere
honestly no um I’m is it resemble the Berkshire maybe a little bit yeah so I but you
know I think it’s it’s easy when you know something like that to say oh yeah there’s I can definitely tell that
Fowler’s got his fingerprints on this I wouldn’t uh you know I wouldn’t profess to be there so someone landed you there
you wouldn’t be on oh my God this is a Fowler no I’d like to I’d probably like to say that’s the case for to to for the
benefit of our listeners but I the honest answer is I think when you know that you’re probably looking for the same stuff so if you look at the
Berkshire particularly the red course what have you got tons of elevation change brilliant path threes
um stunning green sites very natural flow to the course that’s a you know it’s a Hallmark of Fowler but it’s also
a Hallmark a lot of the other Golden Age Architects so you know delamere’s design 1910 you know Fowler obviously of Walton
Heath Fame had already designed that um you know was was decided upon to be the
the the the the principal architect for delamere forest and the course from what I understand was open to rave reviews
the the the really defining thing here with with delamere is the pretty crazy
land it’s got so there’s a huge amount of elevation change as you go your way through so far one of his kind of key
points was that the key principles rather was that you know you should start
um you should be able to start both nines situated right by the clubhouse he actually had five principles I haven’t
got them to hand but it was it was things like that and he actually conceded that the whole course fell short on I think four out of five of
those um but yeah they’ve you’ve you’ve kind of you start from the first T just
orientated off to the right of the clubhouse as you look out in the 10th um tenth just off to the left and you’ve
got the coolest Terrace um which kind of looks out into this
little volcano ninth green which is a wonderful golf hole it’s a really really great drinking Terrace it’s the rm2 from
memory I mean so I’m going back I think probably five years since I last played
it and pre the golfing information Renaissance for my
my world has gone through but near that drinking Terrace they’ve they’ve put the first tea back like like
there’s a monster T back there now that probably strikes me something has happened yeah I don’t think they use it at fat lot so there’s the blue teas
which which is like that’s the absolute tips they play from the greens is like their metal tea
um the blue tea on the first has got to be 70 or 80 yards longer so buy the drinking Terrace yeah it is it’s right
off to the right the 10th they play typically from that back tee anyway which is just off to the left of the Terrace so they’re both kind of both
holes that take you away I don’t think it really matters if you if you got to delamere and they were like guys four
ball you’re going off the tenth when you get here it’s not an issue right both nines
it doesn’t really matter what order you play them in they both have strong finishes I both tell you away from the
clubhouse they both leave you lead you to some magical parts of the course isn’t that first hole a par four of the
second of par five and they’re pretty much I think the first one might be longer that is a brilliant segue Tom because
um one of the things I was going to say is I knew I was going to get on with Donald as we walked off the second tee
he said to me he said the thing is the first is an incredibly long par for and the second is an incredibly short part
four so really they’re both four and a half things like they’re both basically but they’re taking the par five isn’t it
yeah yeah that’s correct but he said like they’re both basically par four and a half so I was like okay right we’re talking half power currency here this is
this is nice so yeah you kind of one takes you right up to the the far right as you go along you know kind of Rolling
Hills that ticks kind of go up and down a little bit and then and then two sort of turns at 90 degrees left and you play
this quite short par five where you drive down into a sort of you know again some dips in the Fairway and you play up
to a lovely green site that’s got some got some trees sort of behind behind the green
um I I’m very reachable for for the for the medium to long hitter um
and it’s just steady like it just steadily improves there’s really not many there’s really not many weak holes
at delamere there are some real good bangers but it’s not a course that’s defined by half a dozen epic holes and
that doesn’t you know quite benign ones everything’s got something of huge interest so I think that the thing that
hit me pretty hard was the third green so you may be looking
out for this stuff a little bit more when you when you’re visiting and you try and take a Keener interest in course design but
the third green and you think well one thing I you know was hoping for but
didn’t think was necessarily the case the routine that found the left I think he Revisited a couple of times in
subsequent years from 1910. the routing’s not changed so the green sites are pretty much there I think
Eight’s been tweaked to touch from what I from what I gather but not much the green sites are pretty original they’re
barely been moved and the rooting is exactly the same and you look at this green site on three
which is a sort of medium length Par Four that sort of folds downhill slightly and a little bit to the right
but it’s perched on this piece of piece of land which makes it a complete Infinity green as you play into it and
there’s quite a few of those that theme sort of repeats itself so when you asked me earlier is there similarities with
the Berkshire I think the red course in particular does have a few Infinity greens where you play up too and you
have that kind of sheer drop off behind and all you can see is Sky with the pin poking up and it’s a pretty great
feature you’ve got them on holes like 10 um there’s quite a few 17 that you play
these wonderful little Infinity greens nine would be another really um
yeah class I just appreciate it that’s a standout feature of the golf course
yeah I think that the terrain and the um the terrain and I think some of the
there’s definitely a few really good Infinity greens which you know what when you spot them they stand out and they
are a lovely feature to look at um the terrain’s pretty magical
it’s quite a natural course um so myself and Donald talked about it
quite a bit on the way around you’ve always got that sort of expectation second week of April Augusta
should be absolutely pure with why you know it’s got to be it’s got to be
absolutely slick but you know Fowler was very much a and you know it was very much kind of about
natural landscape and then just the whole thing with the terrain is it’s just quite it’s quite raw land it’s not
it’s not manicured land so you’re unlikely to get it to maybe the same sort of finesse of some
of the Surrey heathlands that are really manicured and stuff it has some of that more maybe more wood Horse bar Vibes I’d
Almost Say in as much as you know quite very natural looking bunkers
um as I say I think yeah it’s not manicured would be the best way I could explain it and that’s a good thing it’s
it feels really natural is it is it a lot is it what were we looking at it’s a long course what part
is it it’s deceptively short which means I mean you didn’t score very well no no
it’s deceptively short so it’s actually only I think 6 300 yards off the greens teaser I would recommend playing for the
99 of players really it did what they’re back I’d probably recommend
for you know you sort of single figure single figure handicap um there’s no need to go back to the blue I
looked at them I mean it’s told a new one on 18 which is just crazy back and it’s like it sticks another 45 degrees
onto the angle of the dog leg and we’ll talk more about that later maybe but yeah
18 is a hole for example is a really neat par five that sort of
bends dog legs right and goes back underneath this Clubhouse so twice you come back into the clubhouse the ninth
green is perched up above the 18th green and all you can see is the Terrace and this wonderful Clubhouse where
everyone’s outside drinking it’s just it’s brilliant um but they’ve installed a blue T which is
sort of probably another sort of 50 60 yards back it’s a par five playing about 480 or so off the green so 5 30. but
rather than having maybe a sort of 45 degree oblique angle you’ve got sort of a 90 degree
Bend from the blues it’s tougher it’s a lot tougher but you might you know you’re not gonna most golfers are going
to struggle to get home in two from there so you know the Green’s good because it seems to expose more half
power holes makes things a little bit more reachable but you’re not going forward to the yellows and you’re not bringing it too short so
6300 off those greens the reason I say it’s deceptively short is because of the
terrain it feels like a much bigger walk even though it’s quite compact you’re not walking long distance between green
and tea um a lot of undulation yeah tons just crazy amounts of it like every
you know I’ve got to challenge myself here is there a really flat hole on delamere
and I’m not sure there really is everyone nah that’s huge huge Rolling Hills is it yeah yeah you go through at
least two quite significant dips flat doesn’t it but there is well from
green to tea but that’s that’s the whole thing it’s like rolling you’re not you’re not ascending Hills and you’re not descending Hills but what’s
happening is you’re playing maybe to a similar point of height but you’re encountering huge elevation
change on the ground as you get there so you know that allows you to particularly when you’re playing in the summer you
can move it along the ground a little bit and it’s great but it does for you in spots like where you maybe you’re
driving into places that you shouldn’t you know you can’t see the green and stuff and you’ve got to be a bit more strategic yeah yeah definitely if that’s
where it’s like quite subtle so you you sort of playing to little bits of um you know there’s there’s certain holes
where you really want to be on the right side of the Fairway you know great example 14 probably one of my favorite
holes there is this mid-length parfour and you drive away it’s not blind drive
but you know that if you’re hitting driver or longer Club it’s going to crash the summit and it’s going to roll away outside now there’s like a there’s
like another Dell that falls off the Fairway that’s kind of situated on the right side of the hole into a sort of a
yeah it’s a it’s a moan rough area but it’s like a big dowel it’s just a much tougher approach shot it’s parsley blind
um you’re encountering more bunkers to cross before you get to the green if you get it on the right you’re on slightly
higher ground and you get a view of this like it’s absolutely stunning green site it plays right into the corner you know
beautiful bunkering greens perched there with the with the 15th T just sat up above it and it really is a magical golf
hole you’ve got Heather bordering the holes um it’s great but that’s a class example
where you know you really want to favor the right right hand side of that Fairway but you only realize it in
retrospect if you’ve played it played it once or twice which I think I mean I think that goes for a lot of those
these Golden Age architect designs is that there is right and wrong places to play these things from but for the
majority of us golfers it’s just about finding the Fairway and hope you can do something with it isn’t it it’s like
how how did you how did you score around that did you rip it apart I didn’t uh so
this is what we came off the back of quite a good day at uh I’ve had this breakdown which I really I
really think I’ll listen no no no no no no no I played well at Hoy Lake and then God’s the first tear and I literally all
I could see was golf hole I was like I I’m gonna I’m gonna bring down my first one knees here so I’m just gonna
absolutely if I can keep Thursday going we’re in business because it’s horrible you know you you can you can you can
large yeah reasonably okay that’s good you know it it’s it’s a getable golf
course it’s not um it’s not it’s not unnecessarily penal there are areas of rough that are
thicker than others there are a bit there are places you don’t want to visit for sure but you’re not teeing off the
thing is it’s quite a big piece of land we’re in that guy where’s the first team what’s the course record yeah yeah
what’s close records are they don’t okay cool we’re gonna go for that so um
the first at dalama is like outer bounds down the rides but when I say out of bounds down the right it’s 50 60 yards
away from the hull everything has a lot of space there to go out of bound right off the first
is I I mean it’s a crime and a shout out to all the members that have seen our
bounds on that whole well done you guys because apparently you deserve to be in prison it’s absolutely it should not be
the case I think I’ll just try to absolutely wail on the first tee shot and left the face about 30 degrees open
oh did you go out of bounds yeah oh well done years they had like a 60-yard block Donald was was really encouraging first
shot you see me here and he was like no it might be okay though let’s pop another one down I should have hoofed another one up there and then
I said don’t worry about it it’s gone it’s gone it’s gone I think the thing was still going up over the boundary oh well then you I thought you were just I
thought you were I thought you were just saying like this no no no no no no no no oh that’s that’s a but you don’t get into too many places uh what I will say
is I I I hit a few shots that I thought absolute Cracker Jacks
like because there are a few blind holes 11 been a really good example great par five again
huge rolling terrain Heather natural bunkers you get the gist of this by now
I’d be like nice drive just up the right side of the Fairway just in the first cut whatever the the second shot if you
go for that green at delamere on the 11th which is about a 500 yard par five it kind of you reach the summit and then
the ground just gives way and it all falls down to the green and it feeds and there’s a couple of bunkers that kind of
you know that are so staggered on their way in but really the players like you know knock it up the right let the
ground feed it in I’ve played it before so whereas before if I hadn’t played it
at all I would have gone up to the top and got a line I’ve stood down there and thought I’m fairly confident you keep it
on roughly that line it’s five years since I played the bloody Golf Course and I’ve absolutely nutted an iron I
thought that’s absolutely perfect never to be seen again um see there are there are elements
where you have blind shots and you do have to think about that I think but I do think that’s good fun I think that with the blind shots uh you mentioned
the holes that there’s sort of um kind of a tee shot where you can hit it
up to where you can see or if you hit it a bit further it goes over the crest and disappears I’m thinking maybe something
like I think it’s the seventh sixth hole at Ely maybe something similar yeah
there’s a lot in golf to be said for hitting where you can see yeah virtually
I think if you’ve got blind in play is to just like I think it was really clever architect at the time that you
can just dial back it’s where you can see and you’ll you’ll have a you’ll have a shot in but I think there’s so much
um temptation just to people say it’s a course you have to
know but I think there are elements to delamere where you are at an advantage if you know if you know how the ball
runs on the ground and behaves particularly when it’s this firm and fast I don’t mind blind shots though you know I really I don’t know I I really
don’t mind them at all you know people say they are unfair
they’re equally unfair they’re unfair for everyone that makes them fair in some respects I I think there’s some
truth in that well a course is very near and dear to both of us seller as um
got blind approaches well no near and dear to a heart not nearing geographically it’s bloody miles away
um but it’s got blind approaches you don’t see many it’s got many blind approaches and you don’t see that that
often because the thing with blind tee shots the the architect knows exactly where you’re going to be
and can point you in a Direction so you all need to hit roughly in that direction whereas blind approaches
you’ve like there’s one at Rye that’s very cleverly put together with the two
markers you need to line up um they don’t have that itself but it’s kind of like
blind approach is very difficult because you don’t know where you’re gonna be hitting your shot from yeah I mean
there’s a difference isn’t there in the fifth that Prestwick and the tee shot on the 15th at delamere you know 15 is a
shortish par four dog legs left you head over the corner
um so you hit over this sort of crest of a fairway into a sort of blind area but it’s not your it’s not you know you
you’re going to see the green for your approach shot you might fit the Prestwick and it’s a leap of faith and I think there’s a difference there
um yeah I really enjoyed it quite interesting talking about the work they’ve done there so yeah we’re
probably going about six or seven years well when I played there they were digging up a huge section of the course along the side of the course that was
furthest away from the clubhouse
between a par four and a par three sometimes in Winter they use it as a par three yes yeah I don’t I don’t know
because the whole thing was out of actually digging up a whole section yeah they were taking the scalp some of the
earth off the top of that drive so it’s slightly the saddle that you drive over is a little lower
um I think it’s the Marmite whole of the golf course people don’t some people
don’t like it it’s so it’s like it’s the awkward bit of the
property for once of an American term it’s it’s an awkward little piece you get to this
no-brainer 14th green like it’s gonna be there it’s a great golf hole like I said it’s for me it’s probably that nine
probably my favorite holes there but then you’ve got to get out of that corner somehow and you’ve got to get
back to the golf and you it takes you up to then the higher point over where the sort of middle of the front nine comes
around about five you play the path through sixth so you hit this little dog lag that’s right
that’s exactly what I’m thinking and there’s a piece of land which the club don’t own which is a forest which has
dense trees and that’s that point around this Cocoon of forest all around you
so you know this smart play is probably 160 to 180 to the middle to the right or
so but the center line bunk has been kind of enlarged it’s quite a big Hazard you get site you get a glimpse of that
when you stood on the sixth and the seventh you see it and you’re like okay so you know that’s there
um but they’ve they’ve like lowered the saddle it was quite extreme before and I think as I’m saying winter months
because it all sort of collects down into the bottom uh you know they sometimes play as a par three where you
walk up to almost the back of the seventh tier and you play a tee shot um to screen wonderful green site I
personally quite like the golf hole um but it’s only one of those ones if you’re not if you can’t hit the ball far
enough it’s a bit of a pickle no I would I would say you you it’s one way you need to know a fair distance actually so
I had 313 I think to the pin which was never so I thought well that’s out of
the question um bill is that kind of you got to kind of hook it around a corner as well so I
thought I just hit a step two iron and and smash two iron kind of out the back
foot just punched one sort of up there um in in retrospect it was probably a
smidge more Club because you actually run over and into some heavy stuff and there’s a creek be on the other side of the Fairway on the dog leg so you know
the sensible play would have probably been hit less Club but that’s blind shot so that’s golf isn’t it and that’s the you know if that ruins your day because
you’ve you’ve hit a ball over a blunge blind shot you’ve never seen it again see again hit less Club in here okay go
and do your due diligence don’t don’t moan about it so um I I like it it’s a cool golf hole
actually so what’s your uh what’s your advice to people visiting um well I would definitely not look past
playing in the winter I mean the amazing thing with delamere is that it’s a
um it’s an incredibly good value golf course I I think you can play there for around 90 pounds or so in peak season
um I think you know winter rates kick in it’s like a little less maybe 60 or 70 pounds whatever
um I don’t know though so don’t quote me on these numbers it’s a brilliant winter golf course so
play at any time of the year would be would be a strong recommendation um I think that whole section is really
good in the winter isn’t it I mean Lynx Golf Course links golf’s always good in the winter and you can go visit do a
Northwest trip certainly if you’re coming from the south or south of the Northwest and
break it up with delamere it’s like just a perfect little bolt on it yeah yeah definitely so I would make it part of a
trip and and I would dismiss it at your absolute apparel it’s a it’s an outstanding Inland golf course it’s one
of those weird ones if it was in Surrey it would be talked about with I think
much more a plump you know would be it would be it just it’s in it’s in a part of the
world where it’s not a particularly golf Rich area I don’t think certainly when you compare it to the Surrey heathlands
or the North West Coast or whatever um but yeah recommendation out now would be to go there’s any hidden tricks
they’ve done some really good stuff so like I said Tom McKenzie did this you know huge um restoration program probably eight
years ago so I think that finished Donald’s been involved in the greens committee there for quite a while and
he’s a good guy like he’s really knowledgeable um he is the antithesis of a lot of what
we’ve talked about on the Pod before with people like Mike Clayton people on greens committees who have vanity projects lack of understanding
you know seem to think their role is to hold the green keeper to a can he made some really good points he was like my
job is not to tell the green Keepers how to operate this stuff my job is to understand how they work and how I can
help them and give them the air cover with the membership and I thought God you know what if more golf clubs did
that there’d be so much better understanding he was really interested in the grass type and the ground do we
know the grass no well no I didn’t understand it is it is the fine grasses
there are it does play running you know obviously it plays well in the winter so it’s it’s not heavy
but they are they are bringing in some irrigation they don’t have automated irrigation that’s going to be like a big thing for them I think over the next 12
months a big investment they’ve done loads on Heather regeneration so you know again one of the things he’s LED
has been some of the tree thinning and tree removal which has had two kind of big benefits there so
you know I think it’s John Nicholson who’s done um the tree work there who does a lot of
the tree work and Consulting with clubs around the country one it removes some of the organic
matter from nearer the playing surfaces that means Heather grows didn’t know that really in that level of detail but
you know they are doing they are they’re able to generate more hair now alongside alongside the holes looks great
particularly this time of year um I think the other thing then is it
really opens up the sky so it’s back to that point where the infinity greens holds like 10 there was a lot more tree
surrounding them um the approach is to holes like a loads more trees around it feels more
claustrophobic so you get more air you get more wind you get more light into the green surface but also when you’re
playing into those beautiful sort of Fowler Infinity grains the sky opens up behind them so it’s kind of like maybe
what I saw at the Addington when they did some of that that tree removal so it was really cool
um yeah highly enjoyable and there’s a few of the bits so you asked for some tips when you get to the eighth T and you’re
playing delamere look at the back of the Tee Box there’s a little plaque there
um for I’m gonna I’m gonna butcher this because I haven’t got the name to hand so gentleman who’s made a hole in one
way back when the hole is 420 yards this one back in the days of the small ball or the marblers random rafter used to
refer to it um I can imagine the fairways were scorched and he had had wind with but
it’s some bloody story yeah it’s amazing what 420 hole in one par four yeah a
little plaque there it’s insane absolutely insane have you had only one yet no no not me
um like you look at it I mean I hit I hit a
reasonable drive and I didn’t cover the tin cover the carry on the left and that’s got to be like 216 you’re
like how the hell’s this guy got it there um yeah it’s insane apparently the guy had arms like tree trunks you know he
was an absolute mutant but I’m sure he’s got bigger over time as well yeah I I think it’s one of those let the truth
get in the way of a good story I can imagine I think it was 10 foot tall oh well I am um I’m very gutted that I was
unable to attend I came down with um symptomatic food poisoning as opposed
to produce asymptomatic food poisoning we’ve had in the past but um you missed a great day
um it would be nice to go and spend more time there I think um it’d be I think some of these holes
would they would look so good with the Drone they would look you know from the
air that it’s just I would say that the Berkshire red is really the only near comparison I can
probably offer to delamere in so much as variety of hole types elevation change drama and I think that’s what it’s the
type of golf we really like yeah I mean that’s quite the Accolade because the Berkshire red is just an outrageous it’s
amazing amazing yeah that you know that’s maybe one where
being in that sort of London catchment and their expectations of golf in those
parts means it is natural you know it’s more manicured it feels more like it’s
you know cultivated well there’s more money a look yeah more money and ultimately more money don’t take that as
being a the takeaway from this is that delamere scruffy that’s not what I’m saying it’s more natural look to the
holes the greens were pure courses in superb condition um had a great time there look I you
know go spend some time on that Terrace for sure like it’s amazing I I haven’t even touched on the ninth but you know
an all World short Par Four played in front of that Terrace um with kind of this little Hogs back
Fairway the other one is down the hill yeah and the Fairway that you play to it’s like a turtle back so it sort of
falls off front long um right and left so you’ve really got to hit your number
to this little to this little spine affairway and you’re left with it’s really a flick wedge really for most
most players I think to this little volcano green it’s a beautiful golf hole
if you don’t strike those two shots well you’re snookered well a flick wedge for you brings in the dreaded thin and if
there’s a there’s a patio at the back that’s a hook sign and then that’s a gouge nine iron onto the crazy thing so
it’s okay um yeah great great fun nice to also get back to just talking a little bit about
golf courses and going seeing some places so um I think more of that to come yeah we’ve got some more on our travels to
come soon we’re going to try and bring you some more of these coursed eyes and places we visit but when was the last court starters
pass it was a while ago we’ve been we were up in St Andrews for a long time there’s a
big commitment and um I really don’t know when the last time we need to get back to doing more
cool stuff I need to travel some more we’re not traveling that’s why that’s our problem we don’t travel enough yeah
I mean it’s really hard to take the take the listener there on a golf course I think
you know it is it is tricky without kind of just leaning on the same shirt you know
um it’s it’s nice to to wet the appetite I know that we’re in the fortunate position we’re
able to go at some of these places and hopefully we try and highlight some of the Lesser known places or certainly
lesser travel places so we’re gonna don’t get me wrong we like to go to the well-traveled places as well but again
Church Stratton on Thursday I think you’re at church Stratton on Thursday that’s going to be so sick which is we’re looking forward to that and
there’s so much golf around there in the whole place like this King turn and Minchin Hampton there’s an area of of
of England that’s particularly forgotten I think I think so I think I suppose if there’s an ask
of the of the listener to this podcast apart from you know sharing our partners at the Met Office we did early doors I
think you know course Diaries we need to start building a backlog we need to like we
need to get like Tech 101 product management on this we need to we need to get a backlog of course diaries that
we’re going to try and get through because you know I think there’s so many great places I want to go and see um and it’s a great way certainly for us
I think to document those experiences yes just get in touch and if you guys are Keen to get us to
get us anywhere near your golf course just get in touch and we’ll see what we can do but um if you have enjoyed this
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listening to Sam ramble on about delamere and I hope it’s wet your appetite for the golf club and until next time adios